Gemini 4 Argon vs Qwen3.8 Max

At a glance

• Capability index

  • Gemini 4 Argon164.6
  • Qwen3.8 Max156.9

  Gemini 4 Argon is 7.7 points higher.

• Price per 1M tokens

  • Gemini 4 Argon$4.00
  • Qwen3.8 Max$3.00

  Qwen3.8 Max is 25% cheaper.

• Context window

  • Gemini 4 Argon1M tokens
  • Qwen3.8 Max1M tokens

  They take in about the same.

• Released

  • Gemini 4 ArgonOct 13, 2026
  • Qwen3.8 MaxAug 3, 2026

  Gemini 4 Argon is 2 months newer.

Where each scores higher

On the 13 tests both have taken, each on its own scale. A gap of a point or two can sit within a test’s margin of error.

10 more tests have results for only one of them; the table below lists every result.

Everything side by side

Comparison of Gemini 4 Argon vs Qwen3.8 Max

Measure	Gemini 4 ArgonGoogle	Qwen3.8 MaxAlibaba
Model
Maker	Google	Alibaba
Sold here by	Google	Alibaba
API model ID	gemini-4-argon	qwen3.8-max
Released	Oct 13, 2026	Aug 3, 2026
Knowledge cutoff	Mar 2026	Not reported
Weights	Closed: hosted access only	Closed: hosted access only
Developer’s country	United States	China
Hosts selling it	24including Google directly	38including Alibaba directly
Test results
Capability index	164.6 (best of these models)#5 of 277	156.9#20 of 277
Arena text	1525 (best of these models)#1 of 415	1482#24 of 415
LiveBench overall	Not tested	78.5%#18 of 70
Arena WebDev	1678 (best of these models)#9 of 142	1672#11 of 142
Arena coding	1561 (best of these models)#1 of 410	1523#30 of 410
LiveBench coding	Not tested	72.9%#56 of 70
Mock AIME 2024–2025	100.0% (best of these models)#1 of 303	99.4%#15 of 303
FrontierMath Tiers 1–3	86.0% (best of these models)#10 of 117	74.7%#20 of 117
FrontierMath Tier 4	78.0% (best of these models)#15 of 73	46.3%#26 of 73
Arena math	1529 (best of these models)#1 of 400	1500#18 of 400
LiveBench mathematics	Not tested	91.3%#30 of 70
SimpleQA Verified	76.0% (best of these models)#1 of 90	45.8%#38 of 90
CursorBench	52.9%#6 of 71	Not tested
LiveBench agentic coding	Not tested	64.7%#7 of 70
DeepSWE	Not tested	57.5%#36 of 69
Arena creative writing	1516 (best of these models)#2 of 413	1471#16 of 413
Arena instruction following	1528 (best of these models)#1 of 415	1475#28 of 415
LiveBench language	Not tested	79.7%#35 of 70
LiveBench instructions	Not tested	74.1%#13 of 70
LiveBench data analysis	Not tested	78.4%#25 of 70
GPQA Diamond	96.4% (best of these models)#1 of 323	92.7%#25 of 323
Chess puzzles	59.0% (best of these models)#9 of 243	46.0%#28 of 243
Arena hard prompts	1550 (best of these models)#1 of 415	1503#28 of 415
LiveBench reasoning	Not tested	88.2%#24 of 70
Price per million tokens
Input	$2.00	$2.00
Output	$10.00	$6.00 (best of these models)
Blended, 3 input to 1 output	$4.00	$3.00 (best of these models)
Cached input	$0.10 (best of these models)	$0.25
Writing to the cache	Not reported	$2.50
Audio input	$2.00	Not reported
The maker’s own price	This listing	This listing
Limits
Context window	1M tokens	1M tokens
Max input	1M tokens (best of these models)	991K tokens
Max output	32.8K tokens	131.1K tokens (best of these models)
Features
Reads	audio, images, PDFs, text and video	images, PDFs, text and video
Produces	text	text
Reasoning	Yeseffort low, medium, high	Yeseffort low, medium, xhigh; can be switched off; thinking budget can be set
Tool calling	Yes	Yes
Structured output	Yes, such as JSON	Yes, such as JSON
File attachments	Yes	Yes
Temperature setting	Supported	Supported

Bold marks the better value in each row. Prices are each model’s own list price, or the middle price across hosts when the maker does not sell it, blended as three input tokens for every output token. Test results as published by LiveBench (Apache-2.0), Epoch AI (CC BY 4.0), Datacurve DeepSWE, compiled by Epoch AI (CC BY 4.0), Cursor CursorBench, compiled by Epoch AI (CC BY 4.0), Arena (CC BY 4.0); model details and prices from models.dev (MIT). Confirm pricing with the provider before use.