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Kimi K3 vs Qwen3.8 Max

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  1. Kimi K3Moonshot AI

At a glance

  • Capability index

    • Kimi K3157.4
    • Qwen3.8 Max156.4

    Kimi K3 is 1.0 points higher.

  • Price per 1M tokens

    • Kimi K3$6.00
    • Qwen3.8 Max$3.00

    Qwen3.8 Max is 2 times cheaper.

  • Context window

    • Kimi K31M tokens
    • Qwen3.8 Max1M tokens

    They take in about the same.

  • Released

    • Kimi K3Jul 16, 2026
    • Qwen3.8 MaxAug 3, 2026

    Qwen3.8 Max is 18 days newer.

Where each scores higher

On the 22 tests both have taken, each on its own scale. A gap of a point or two can sit within a test’s margin of error.

Kimi K3

  • LiveBench overall+0.7 points
  • Arena text+7 points
  • LiveBench coding+8.6 points
  • Arena coding+17 points
  • Arena math+3 points
  • SimpleQA Verified+4.8 points
  • DeepSWE+11.1 points
  • LiveBench language+5.8 points
  • Arena instruction following+14 points
  • LiveBench data analysis+0.3 points
  • LiveBench reasoning+2.5 points
  • GPQA Diamond+0.4 points
  • Chess puzzles+10.0 points
  • Arena hard prompts+14 points

Qwen3.8 Max

  • Arena WebDev+13 points
  • LiveBench mathematics+6.9 points
  • Mock AIME 2024–2025+2.2 points
  • FrontierMath Tiers 1–3+2.6 points
  • FrontierMath Tier 4+7.3 points
  • LiveBench agentic coding+2.5 points
  • LiveBench instructions+2.7 points
  • Arena creative writing+8 points

Everything side by side

Comparison of Kimi K3 vs Qwen3.8 Max
MeasureKimi K3Moonshot AIQwen3.8 MaxAlibaba
Model
MakerMoonshot AIAlibaba
Sold here byMoonshot AIAlibaba
API model IDkimi-k3qwen3.8-max
ReleasedJul 16, 2026Aug 3, 2026
Knowledge cutoffNot reportedNot reported
WeightsOpen: downloadableClosed: hosted access only
Developer’s countryChinaChina
Hosts selling it84including Moonshot AI directly36including Alibaba directly
Training compute2.0 × 10²⁵ FLOPEpoch AI estimateNot published
Test results
Capability index157.4 (best of these models)#15 of 274156.4#22 of 274
LiveBench overall79.2% (best of these models)#15 of 6678.5%#17 of 66
Arena text1488 (best of these models)#16 of 4131482#23 of 413
LiveBench coding81.5% (best of these models)#15 of 6672.9%#52 of 66
Arena WebDev1658#13 of 1381671 (best of these models)#10 of 138
Arena coding1541 (best of these models)#9 of 4081524#28 of 408
LiveBench mathematics84.4%#53 of 6691.3% (best of these models)#27 of 66
Mock AIME 2024–202597.2%#31 of 29799.4% (best of these models)#14 of 297
FrontierMath Tiers 1–372.2%#22 of 11474.7% (best of these models)#18 of 114
FrontierMath Tier 439.0%#29 of 7046.3% (best of these models)#25 of 70
Arena math1501 (best of these models)#16 of 3961498#18 of 396
SimpleQA Verified50.6% (best of these models)#24 of 8645.8%#37 of 86
LiveBench agentic coding62.2%#10 of 6664.7% (best of these models)#7 of 66
DeepSWE68.5% (best of these models)#19 of 6957.5%#36 of 69
LiveBench language85.5% (best of these models)#11 of 6679.7%#34 of 66
LiveBench instructions71.4%#23 of 6674.1% (best of these models)#13 of 66
Arena creative writing1460#26 of 4111468 (best of these models)#20 of 411
Arena instruction following1488 (best of these models)#14 of 4131474#31 of 413
LiveBench data analysis78.7% (best of these models)#21 of 6678.4%#24 of 66
LiveBench reasoning90.7% (best of these models)#9 of 6688.2%#23 of 66
GPQA Diamond93.1% (best of these models)#20 of 31992.7%#24 of 319
Chess puzzles39.0% (best of these models)#31 of 22729.0%#54 of 227
Arena hard prompts1517 (best of these models)#9 of 4131503#27 of 413
Price per million tokens
Input$3.00$2.00 (best of these models)
Output$15.00$6.00 (best of these models)
Blended, 3 input to 1 output$6.00$3.00 (best of these models)
Cached input$0.30$0.25 (best of these models)
Writing to the cacheNot reported$2.50
The maker’s own priceThis listingThis listing
Limits
Context window1M tokens1M tokens
Max input1M tokens (best of these models)991K tokens
Max output1M tokens (best of these models)131.1K tokens
Features
Readsimages, text and videoimages, PDFs, text and video
Producestexttext
ReasoningYeseffort low, high, max; can be switched off; thinking budget can be setYeseffort low, medium, xhigh; can be switched off; thinking budget can be set
Tool callingYesYes
Structured outputYes, such as JSONYes, such as JSON
File attachmentsYesYes
Temperature settingFixed by the providerSupported

Bold marks the better value in each row. Prices are each model’s own list price, or the middle price across hosts when the maker does not sell it, blended as three input tokens for every output token. Test results as published by LiveBench (Apache-2.0), Epoch AI (CC BY 4.0), Datacurve DeepSWE, compiled by Epoch AI (CC BY 4.0), Arena (CC BY 4.0); model details and prices from models.dev (MIT). Confirm pricing with the provider before use.