Kimi K3 vs Qwen3.8 Max
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- Kimi K3Moonshot AI
- Qwen3.8 MaxAlibaba
At a glance
Capability index
Kimi K3157.4
Qwen3.8 Max156.4
Kimi K3 is 1.0 points higher.
Price per 1M tokens
Kimi K3$6.00
Qwen3.8 Max$3.00
Qwen3.8 Max is 2 times cheaper.
Context window
Kimi K31M tokens
Qwen3.8 Max1M tokens
They take in about the same.
Released
Kimi K3Jul 16, 2026
Qwen3.8 MaxAug 3, 2026
Qwen3.8 Max is 18 days newer.
Where each scores higher
On the 22 tests both have taken, each on its own scale. A gap of a point or two can sit within a test’s margin of error.
Kimi K3
- LiveBench overall+0.7 points
- Arena text+7 points
- LiveBench coding+8.6 points
- Arena coding+17 points
- Arena math+3 points
- SimpleQA Verified+4.8 points
- DeepSWE+11.1 points
- LiveBench language+5.8 points
- Arena instruction following+14 points
- LiveBench data analysis+0.3 points
- LiveBench reasoning+2.5 points
- GPQA Diamond+0.4 points
- Chess puzzles+10.0 points
- Arena hard prompts+14 points
Qwen3.8 Max
- Arena WebDev+13 points
- LiveBench mathematics+6.9 points
- Mock AIME 2024–2025+2.2 points
- FrontierMath Tiers 1–3+2.6 points
- FrontierMath Tier 4+7.3 points
- LiveBench agentic coding+2.5 points
- LiveBench instructions+2.7 points
- Arena creative writing+8 points
Everything side by side
| Measure | ||
|---|---|---|
| Model | ||
| Maker | Moonshot AI | Alibaba |
| Sold here by | Moonshot AI | Alibaba |
| API model ID | kimi-k3 | qwen3.8-max |
| Released | Jul 16, 2026 | Aug 3, 2026 |
| Knowledge cutoff | Not reported | Not reported |
| Weights | Open: downloadable | Closed: hosted access only |
| Developer’s country | China | China |
| Hosts selling it | 84including Moonshot AI directly | 36including Alibaba directly |
| Training compute | 2.0 × 10²⁵ FLOPEpoch AI estimate | Not published |
| Test results | ||
| Capability index | 157.4 (best of these models)#15 of 274 | 156.4#22 of 274 |
| LiveBench overall | 79.2% (best of these models)#15 of 66 | 78.5%#17 of 66 |
| Arena text | 1488 (best of these models)#16 of 413 | 1482#23 of 413 |
| LiveBench coding | 81.5% (best of these models)#15 of 66 | 72.9%#52 of 66 |
| Arena WebDev | 1658#13 of 138 | 1671 (best of these models)#10 of 138 |
| Arena coding | 1541 (best of these models)#9 of 408 | 1524#28 of 408 |
| LiveBench mathematics | 84.4%#53 of 66 | 91.3% (best of these models)#27 of 66 |
| Mock AIME 2024–2025 | 97.2%#31 of 297 | 99.4% (best of these models)#14 of 297 |
| FrontierMath Tiers 1–3 | 72.2%#22 of 114 | 74.7% (best of these models)#18 of 114 |
| FrontierMath Tier 4 | 39.0%#29 of 70 | 46.3% (best of these models)#25 of 70 |
| Arena math | 1501 (best of these models)#16 of 396 | 1498#18 of 396 |
| SimpleQA Verified | 50.6% (best of these models)#24 of 86 | 45.8%#37 of 86 |
| LiveBench agentic coding | 62.2%#10 of 66 | 64.7% (best of these models)#7 of 66 |
| DeepSWE | 68.5% (best of these models)#19 of 69 | 57.5%#36 of 69 |
| LiveBench language | 85.5% (best of these models)#11 of 66 | 79.7%#34 of 66 |
| LiveBench instructions | 71.4%#23 of 66 | 74.1% (best of these models)#13 of 66 |
| Arena creative writing | 1460#26 of 411 | 1468 (best of these models)#20 of 411 |
| Arena instruction following | 1488 (best of these models)#14 of 413 | 1474#31 of 413 |
| LiveBench data analysis | 78.7% (best of these models)#21 of 66 | 78.4%#24 of 66 |
| LiveBench reasoning | 90.7% (best of these models)#9 of 66 | 88.2%#23 of 66 |
| GPQA Diamond | 93.1% (best of these models)#20 of 319 | 92.7%#24 of 319 |
| Chess puzzles | 39.0% (best of these models)#31 of 227 | 29.0%#54 of 227 |
| Arena hard prompts | 1517 (best of these models)#9 of 413 | 1503#27 of 413 |
| Price per million tokens | ||
| Input | $3.00 | $2.00 (best of these models) |
| Output | $15.00 | $6.00 (best of these models) |
| Blended, 3 input to 1 output | $6.00 | $3.00 (best of these models) |
| Cached input | $0.30 | $0.25 (best of these models) |
| Writing to the cache | Not reported | $2.50 |
| The maker’s own price | This listing | This listing |
| Limits | ||
| Context window | 1M tokens | 1M tokens |
| Max input | 1M tokens (best of these models) | 991K tokens |
| Max output | 1M tokens (best of these models) | 131.1K tokens |
| Features | ||
| Reads | images, text and video | images, PDFs, text and video |
| Produces | text | text |
| Reasoning | Yeseffort low, high, max; can be switched off; thinking budget can be set | Yeseffort low, medium, xhigh; can be switched off; thinking budget can be set |
| Tool calling | Yes | Yes |
| Structured output | Yes, such as JSON | Yes, such as JSON |
| File attachments | Yes | Yes |
| Temperature setting | Fixed by the provider | Supported |
Bold marks the better value in each row. Prices are each model’s own list price, or the middle price across hosts when the maker does not sell it, blended as three input tokens for every output token. Test results as published by LiveBench (Apache-2.0), Epoch AI (CC BY 4.0), Datacurve DeepSWE, compiled by Epoch AI (CC BY 4.0), Arena (CC BY 4.0); model details and prices from models.dev (MIT). Confirm pricing with the provider before use.